Bary Crocker: In 1979, we have Sverdlovsk, for the whole world to see, okay, so... and I can tell you that we knew, when Sverdlovsk happened, what happened. US government had absolutely no doubt, okay, within... now we had some naysayers, but there was not much doubt, okay, particularly after the doctor who treated them was interviewed, we found out it was inhalation anthrax. Now they still tried to perpetuate this myth, Nesselson brought these scientists, they tried to say it was tainted meat, but of course that's all blown away later.