Gennadiy N. Lepeshkin: It was a very tough time, because we had to find a way to provide money and work for people and we were addressing conversion issues and doing small-scale manufacture of pharmaceuticals and agricultural products to protect vegetation.
Slava Paperno (interpreting): Times were very hard. They did what they could to try and repurpose the plant.
Gary Crocker: Right. But now, let's say in contrast to Koltsovo, which immediately started advertising that they wanted foreign investment, companies came to Koltsovo, they were, you know, from many different places, were looking at coming in to invest. But did that happen here at Stepnogorsk? Did... Was there a move to commercialize and use this?
Lepeshkin: The thing is that Koltsovo, it has a somewhat... there are particular aspects to its production lines. They're more compact and better suited to commercialization. They're all small. While we had very large plants, very large bulk-scale equipment, and we were working on those... we were working on resistant microorganisms, which didn't have much appeal for businessmen.