Sonia Ben Ouargham-Gormley: How de we know what they achieved? How far they went in their research and production?
Richard Spetzler: In the type of equipment they had, the tests that were conducted, is part of the picture. We also... I saw... we were suspicious of some material they were preparing, which turned out to be a simulant for anthrax, which was Megaterium. Bacillus Megaterium. They were... had grown it, and then apparently treated it to get a small particle aerosol, and spray-dry it. And a sample of that was sent to two French laboratories, and I believe, three US laboratories. And it came back that the particles may not have been what the... all that you wanted, but they were well... small enough, within the range. And that very well... that wouldn't have been the quality of the product that was in the anthrax letters, but it certainly was in a small enough package that... We know they also field-tested it. A number of agents. And we had proof of that. So, that's the basis of knowing how much progress they had made.