Andrew Weber: So they told us this rather absurd story, which they knew that we knew was a big lie, and that is that the Stepnogorsk facility was designed to produce large quantities of vaccines. It was a very strange, almost a hostile encounter. And I remember the director of the plant, Gennadiy Nikolayevich Lepeshkin, said, "OK, enough with the talk, we'll just show you everything, and you can make your own judgments."