Gary Crocker: In the words of... of Dave Kelly, you know, the... the person that became very well-known for his work in Iraq, he and his British team, they went into Obolensk. And this is a man who wears the suit, works with pathogens, you know, he's been in the labs, he... I mean he's... and he said when he returned, I debriefed him in London, he said, "I was in the presence of evil." And, of course, it was. It was the place where the test chambers were, and where they tethered the animal, and where they did all this stuff, and they worked on all these things. And they took what Pasechnik was doing in his lab, this is where they were taking it to weaponization.
David Christopher Kelly, mentioned in the first sentence, is a British weapons expert.