S. Popov: I spent around ten years, from '76 through '86, studying the possibilities of producing new types of biological weapons in Novosibirsk, in a little town near Novosibirsk, that was called... which later came to be called Koltsovo. The institute itself was called the Institute of Molecular Biology. Really, a pretty inoffensive name. The only clue to its potential, perhaps, connection with designs that were not so very nice, was that it belonged to Glavmikrobioprom. But there were lots of people who simply didn't know what Glavmikrobioprom was. That is, it was an institute that was presented to the world as a place for developing new methods... new methods related to the use of molecular biology in the medical and biotechnology industries. That was what we were told. In fact, the institute's main purpose was, of course, biological weapons development. And the very fact that the institute was located in Siberia, right near Akademgorodok, was in order to facilitate the transfer of the latest scientific knowledge from the academic institutes to the Glavmikrobioprom institutes.